Thursday, September 24, 2015

Uh-oh, a video was unearthed of Carly Fiorina supporting the individual mandate in 2013

Well this is disappointing.  She was asked on Crossfire during a debate with Ralph Nader what she thought about the individual mandate and the ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions, she responded that she supports both.  You can watch the video of that segment here (it's not embeddable) and a highly edited version below.

And here is another part of the same show where she talks about how inefficient government is.

None of this is a real deal killer for Fiorina as she doesn't support Obamacare or single payor, she supports an individual mandate where people can buy high deductible insurance, something Obamacare doesn't do.  What it does say is that she is a smaller, better government Republican rather than a small government Republican.  One of the hints that she was the former rather than the later was her answer to a question on libertarianism from Glenn Beck:

GLENN: Well, I think Libertarianism — other than being strong on individual rights and small government is really defined by the person. So how would you define Libertarianism, and do you have any of that in you?

CARLY: I certainly believe that this nation became the greatest on the face of the earth and in all of human history because our founders had basic confidence and trust in each individual and their potential, their God-given gift, and their ability to live lives of dignity, purpose, and meaning, with responsibility. I mean, that’s the foundation of this nation. And so, to me, that is the core of who we are. Because this is the only nation on the face of the earth, and truly in all of human history, that was founded on this basic belief in the capacity for life of dignity and purpose and meaning on the part of an individual.

That’s pretty profound. And it’s incredibly important. I also think that there are things that we know work better. You know, we know that children grow up stronger if they have a loving mother and father. We know that communities are stronger when people have a stake in their community. We know that two of the most telling signs of someone’s future success in life are whether they finish high school and whether they wait until they get married to bear a child. So those are issues perhaps of culture or lifestyle that I think also impact our ability to build strong communities. 

Her answer is just not the way I would expect someone who is a true believer in small government would answer it.  Here is how Reagan answered it (though it wasn't from Glenn Beck):

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path. 

Carly doesn't ever really mention the freedom of the individual or liberty or any of that stuff, instead she seems to take things from a very utilitarian perspective in that she will do what she thinks will work best.  If she thinks it requires government action, she'll do it. I still think she is to the right of folks like Mitt Romney but I might just have to go with Marco Rubio.  I'm not done with her yet but I'm definitely concerned as I don't believe government should be able to force you to spend money on something you might never need.  I also don't think the government should force insurance companies to cover people they don't want to cover.  It's like forcing State Farm to insure the house of someone who has had 7 houses burn down.  How can you force the insurance company to take the risk?

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