Wednesday, December 28, 2011

A Vote for Ron Paul is a Vote for the Destruction of Israel

During the debates, Ron Paul made it sound like he really has nothing against Israel, that he is really just against the billions of dollars we send to Israel every year.  While that is a fair point given the state of our country's finances, what really seems to be behind this is a deep seeded hatred of the Jewish State.  Eric Rondero, a former staffer for Ron Paul who worked with him on and off for 16 years, has an illuminating post on Ron Paul's personal biases.  Here is the key point on Israel:

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

It is one thing to say that Israel can take care of itself and doesn't need US aid, a whole other thing entirely to support stealing Israel from the Jews (again) and giving it to the Arabs.  I'm sure some people would argue that given Ron Paul's general pacifism/isolationism that he wouldn't actively do anything to hurt Israel.  I think that view ignores the very important fact that Israel is highly dependent on US re-arming in times of war.  Imagine if Israel is fighting a war in the future where it's enemies (various Arab nations, Iran and/or Turkey) are fully armed with Russian and Chinese weapons and Israel is refused arms by the American President?  Israel would probably be destroyed in a matter of weeks simply due to a lack of munitions.

I know Ron Paul has no chance to win in Iowa but I think people who are thinking of voting for him, even as a protest vote, ought to realize exactly what kind of future they would be voting for.


  1. "I know Ron Paul has no chance to win in Iowa"

    I hope you are right because the thought of celebrating Paulfans is annoying me already.
    But he IS a frontrunner and his followers are fanatical, which will play in his favour in the caucuses. Expect them to show up, all 100%.

  2. The thing about caucuses is that there is a lot of vote changing going on during the long town-hall like meetings. One thing about the fanatical Paul supporters is that they are outrageously bad at changing anyone's mind, usually turning to insults once people start disagreeing with them.

    Also, they tend to be registered democrats or independents so unless they actually changed their registration they wont even be allowed in to caucus.

  3. "Paul is doing the best job of getting those people who aren't really Republicans but say they're going to vote in the Republican primary"
    - Washington Examiner

    The polls are targeting "likely GOP caucus participants" and still have RP as a frontrunner, so it seems reasonable to assume that his followers have registered as "Republican". Perhaps that's one reason he's grown so fast in the polls, just in time for the caucus.

    I agree that his followers are intolerable zealots, but they're probably better at hiding their mental issues than 4 years ago. For instance they are instructed by campaign management to behave, to hide tattoos & piercings etc.

    I do think the other candidates need to attack him a little bit smarter. It's not just that the RP Newsletters have some "racist" content, they reveal a mind that is insanely paranoid about anything having to do with the federal government. Electing RP as president of the US would be like electing Richard Dawkins as head of the Anglican Church. And it's obvious that people have no clue about what it will mean when his ideas will be put in practice. For instance when the US will leave NATO and bring all the troops to US soil, do his military followers expect they will end up in a new american base? Of course not, he will do everything he can to slash the "military industrial complex" and decimate the size of the army. I mean, the guy assured us that there is no threat from any foreign nation to the US, so let's keep a fraction of the National Guard and fire everybody else.

  4. He is now saying that Iran would be justified in closing the Strait of Hormuz in response to sanctions. He needs to remember that just because you are a pacifist doesn't necessarily mean you have to defend the enemy.

    On the polls, it is one thing to say on the phone if you are likely to participate but another to actually file the form to change parties AND spend hours on a january evening.

  5. Well his base IS fanatical, and turns out it's very easy to register on the spot in Iowa.

    "Non-Republicans are sure to vote in all three early GOP contests. Iowa requires that caucus participants be registered Republicans, but anyone can show up on caucus night, register, and vote. In New Hampshire, so-called "undeclared" voters of any stripe can participate in the GOP primary. And South Carolina's GOP contest is open to all. Wherever Paul's final total, it will reflect lots of non-Republican votes."

  6. Ahhh I didnt realize you could change the registration the same day.

    I find it amazing that so many democrats support Paul. Do they even know what a libertarian stands for economically (as in diametrically opposed to what liberal democrats stand for)? Talk about useful idiots.

  7. Well i think some of those democrats just want to have fun derailing the republican process, perhaps making sure Obama will run against an unelectable candidate.

    The other ones were probably never serious democrats to begin with. They loved the idea of fighting the establishment, and now with Obama in power they found another cause that will fullfill their need. They probably don't understand much about their new cause other than it's something about liberty but most importantly: that Ron is always right no matter what. They want to think about themselves as smarter than the masses but they are such sheepish followers, they will rationalize anything about Ron Paul, to the point that they will even defend him in case he was caught raping a toddler.

  8. Rep. Ron Paul, in a tight race for first place in Iowa with Mitt Romney, is perhaps the most likely to benefit from Democratic crossovers. His campaign is distributing information sheets advising Iowans that they can register Republican "for a day" on caucus night, then switch their registration back afterward if they want.

    "It's easy. You can register on your way in the door," David Fischer, co-chairman of Paul's Iowa organization, told voters Thursday at a campaign stop in Atlantic.""

  9. Paul has more donations from the military than all other candidates combined.

    Paul also has more than double the social media volume of any other candidate.

  10. Social media volume just means he has a younger crowd behind him. I'm sure Occupy Wall Street's social media volume was off the charts.

    On the military, I'm sure he does, but that doesnt change the fact that he is an apologist for Iran despite the fact that his pacifism doesn't require him to be so.